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Thanks to Mr. Bat for the use of his wonderful Daybreaker Dreambooth.
This is something Iāve been thinking about doing for some time, combining the results of multiple specialized models into one coherent image. Naturally Iām being a little bit conservative with this first outing as the characters are not truly interacting and this more merely demonstrates the models ability to not immediately explode any lesser understood characters who happen to overlap with a primary subject. Woo, small victories. In the future Iād like to explore more dynamic interactions like hugging, etc but in the meantime, this will do.
I started by generating two 1:1 images of Daybreaker and NMM each, using Mr. Batās Daybreaker model, my own NMM model and a few of my own embeddings. In photoshop I quite crudely stitched the images together and began img2img runs until they had a coherent shared background across the width of the image. Following that I began hotswapping between models to rebuild and redesign both characters before taking the image back together to paint in Daybreakers mane, the mist effect and both āglowing hornā effects, all of which are largely original painting with the exception of daybreakers mane which was largely lost over further iterations and error corrections slowly eroded any original work.
once I had a near final 512x768 image, I used the lollypop upscale model to bring the image up to its current resolution, after that I split the image into separate 1280x1280 chunks and began error correcting some of the more egregious āai upscaleā artifacts, either by hand or successive low denoise inpainting. This largely took the form of correcting blurred lines, shapes that dissolved into nothingless, coloring artifacts and one very troublesome feather.
After that, I reconstructed the image and did some simple denoising in photoshop plus /sharpen/minor color correction/etc.
Thank you for the in-depth reply. There certainly is a learning curve and it is not like anyone can just automagically get perfect finished pieces from it.
Iāll help you out.
Lunaās wing. (Celestiaās wing are different styles)
Luna has 3 Legs
Myself from AI art. Because (I*) got hit the hardest out of all artists here because of how evenly matched the machine does shading/rendering (Please check out my shading). People say that Iām the same as a machine in the community, which makes me really depressed.
To me at least when I look at the art. It has poor wonky signature and patreon labels. So that obliviously came from artist works. Perhaps Itās not the AI. But itās the AI users using artistās content without consideration. Maybe people here Like lemon have a point.
As far as I understand (Artstation community/discord) told me itās not about the style(You canāt copyright style) but the finished work, The way that it is. People canāt take that away from you. But they are. This is like A whole grey area because people sell fan art at conventions.
I did not spend a decade asking the pony art community for advice on how to improve just to only have every rule book fundamental fall apart and be broken and to be thrown out of the window.
OK, letās recap the damage of AI generated image and see if I have got it right.
That sounds possible, but AI generated images are usually random and in very similar styles if they actually look good(you can notice the shading and the lining).
Real artists have their own styles, and they can do work accurately. If it is just one art piece for visual pleasure then its possible that AI is more effective, but if you want to make a full video animatic, design your own OC, or make a scene for a story, then real artists would certainly do better immensely.
Really, no one deserves to be harassed, but there are always haters, with or without AI, no one can do much about them either.
That sounds true, but how is AI doing that? Taking someoneās one art piece, let it go through an AI and use the outcome as themselves is art theft, but Iād say that itās the same when real artists do that, because itās essentially taking the original artās idea inside. I donāt think AI makes a difference here.
There a massive difference between Learning from art and Working on top of art, My dude.
(Iāve been updating my signature for days now)
Not gonna lie, I knew I was being lazy with the wing but whatās wrong with the eye?
They are clearly different.
Do people who looks at your art, learn from it, gets inspired to make art needs to obtain consent from you to make art? Because this is what AI does. It looks at your art and learns from it. Exactly the same way (conceptually) as a human would. When you post something online publicly, people will look at it. People will unconsciously learn from it.
Do you want to prevent people using your work? Do not post it online at all, its that easy. Keep it a secret, destroy it once you are done making it.
How did you learn to draw? Have you looked at ANY prior piece of work before your first drawing? If you have, you just stole from the people who made those! Because they made something and you learned from it, even if you donāt realized it.
Also, there is the fact that whomever is drawing anything resembling MLP, is straight stealing from the intellectual property owner of MLP (who is Hasbro). Stop drawing anything related to any copyrighted material, invent your own characters, own creatures never seen before (ponies are already copyright protected). Letās see how quick you get traction.
And I see literally 0 resemblance to the art what the loudest artist here makes.
Again AI is just recognizing signatures incorrectly as important features of images, it doesnāt have the intelligence to really realize they are not something it should be adding to art (yet).
Keep Letting people mention that they are going to Mass Spam my art style, and devalue it 100X fold?
Keep hearing How my art is AI art and Not my real art, when Iāve been doing it for decades?
Iām just apposed to accept that Art now Doesnāt have No common courtesy to fundamentals anymore
When Iāve been chewed out by artistās for decades to focus on the fundamentals to improve as an artist?
And now Iām the bad guy because this AI artist canāt bother fixing Lunaās left eye, Or wing that mergeās with her body?
Respectfully, Iām not just a fan artist. Itās directed at all* my content I make. Including my original content.
I donāt think you understand what Iām saying. This is not about the content of the art. Itās about the final product.
All matters of AI aside, I think itās sad if you wound up harassed by anyone for any reason, or if you were ever made to feel ashamed or obsolete for your artstyle. Youāre a great artist whoās done great work, and Iāve never heard of you doing anyone wrong. If you had offered those free art lessons a couple years ago (back when I had more time and interest), I certainly would have taken you up on them. You can ask Rocket Lawn Chair about that if you think Iām just humoring you.
That may not be wrong but thatās also an apt description for the majority of human artists, so itās not a very effective criticism of AI unless you think youāre stealing other peopleās art by drawing inspiration and learning from things you see on Derpibooru.
Limited meaning within the confines of fair use. If the usage is fair use the artist has no right over it and cannot complain about copyright infringement or submit a DMCA etc. Copyright is not an infinitely powerful weapon you can use to silence or suppress anything you dislike. People have the right to criticize you using your work, people have a right to parody your work, people have a right to use it in various forms of research, and people likely have a right to use it in large generative AI models like this.
That is not how AI works. Learn how AI works first and maybe youāll have a better appreciation for what it is doing. In short though, AI learns to generalize various constructs of an image on every level, from the overall composition (e.g. what arrangement of different high level concepts will create a āponyā) down to the finest detail (stuff like texture, shading, lines, curves, etc). It is quite literally learning in a way very similar to how humans conceptualize things which is one of the one of the goals of modern machine learning in a way as things that see the world in a fuzzy way similar to how we do are quite useful for automating various workflows (e.g. an AI that can recognize images can take the place of a human content moderator or something like that). AI obviously is different from us and especially for art it generates art in a much different way (though do note stroke-based AI art is a thing, itās just a really stupid way for a computer to go about making art when brushes and strokes like that are more a necessity due to limited human/computer interaction technology like drawing tablets vs hooking your brain up to a computer directly), but it is not just taking images and pasting them together, it is learning the fundamental aspects of what make up images and art and that is provable in its generalization ability. You can say its inspiration is a tad lacking however since once learning these concepts you are in a way just interpolating around in a huge high-dimensional space of all the things that make up āartā, but it still is able to be creative despite that as much of that space is unexplored, and humans do the same thing a lot of the time as well to discover new combinations of existing ideas that work well (itās hard to say how much human inspiration truly comes from some magical complex brain BS vs how much is us just mimicking things in the environment and other content weāve seen).
The keyword being ālimitedā.
Incredibly. But, unless you have Disney streaming, it will cost to see it. It is on iTunes though.
I need to watch this show, is it good?
Not the same anatomy/lighting/features/creatures/landscapes.