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Question regarding foalcon / anthro (of various types)

Thoryn

Latter Liaison
Can we get descriptors somewhere of anthro, unguligrade anthro, semi-anthro, plantigrade anthro and possibly others, in addition to a table in the rule set of what is allowed to be mixed? Because I’m a bit confused.
If I understand rule 5 (bullet point 2) correctly, sexual situations of anthro mature character is fine, sexual situations of non-anthro underage character is fine, sexual situations of anthro underage character is not fine?
Do not upload images of characters in sexual depictions or scenarios who look underage and look human or human-like (anthro), regardless of style. Do not discuss or link to sites that knowingly host such content.
So, for a sexual image of an underage character which has fingers and feet, it’s forbidden and nothing else matters?
Just wanting to know if I understand this right, or if it’s more like “if it looks like MLP it’s fine, but if it looks like a real child cosplaying MLP, it’s not”.
Sunny

Let me simplify it for you: Images that appear human-like, such as anthro characters, cannot be made to look underage, even if they are in a stylized form. For example, if you ask the generator to create an ‘anthro’ character (e.g., Twilight Sparkle, Rainbow Dash, or Sweetie Belle) and make them look young, the AI will likely do so (most AI platforms will just block your prompt), but posting that here would get you banned.
Thoryn

Latter Liaison
@Sunny
Does that mean all kinds of anthro (unguligrade, semi, plantigrade) is considered too human-like?
If it’s anthro (whatever exactly what that means) but with hooves, wings, horns, whatever.. that’s human-like?
Can it be summed up as “Walking on two feet = anthro, don’t post explicit young characters”?
Scarlet Ribbon

The problem I run into here is that I have several generated images with younger characters I have chosen not to post because the hooves aren’t in the frame, but the pose itself would be awkward for a pony, and is human-like enough that I don’t wanna play with fire.
And honestly, I think just erring on the side of caution is better for everyone.
Thoryn

Latter Liaison
erring on the side of caution is better for everyone.
Yes, and no. In my opinion it’s a silly goalpost. Of course I agree it’s best to be cautious because I don’t want the site to get in trouble, but I disagree with it because long-term I can take an educated guess which direction the goalpost will eventually be moved.
Eventually, all furry content will be banned worldwide, everyone is imprisoned and it’ll be societal collapse since everything in tech and critical infrastructure is kept going by furries…
Until then, guess I’ll enjoy what I can from here, and what I can make on my own.
Admin

Administrator
I’ve copied over the base descriptions from derpi for those tags, sans examples; I can find some later, but if anyone already has some good (safe) ones in mind, please do show.
The basics of this in relation to rule #5 is that the laws on “underage pornography” in some countries the site (via several parts of our infrastructure and key staff) are in are (likely intentionally) very vague. Laws use wording like “images that appear to show an underage person in sexual scenarios” and then some paragraphs further down “obscene imagery is not limited to photographs but can include fictional representations of underage persons”. Basically the laws were made to be so vague that drawn lolicon could get flagged as actual CP, and while it would be exceptional for a prosecutor or judge to actually bother, it’s high risk enough for companies to just terminate services outright over to save themselves the risk.

Now, you’re probably thinking, and this is a sane thing to think, “Sweetie Belle can’t ever possibly be confused for a representation of a real person, she’s a unicorn, she has a horn! And look, I made her unguligrade anthro, no human has hooves for feet!”. Unfortunately people will (and have) just drawn straight up “yep, that’s definitely a human child” lolicon, and slapped a tiny horn on the forehead, or floating wings, made the skin colour a bit different. And for the hooves? Well, they just don’t draw the toes separately, like a sock but make sure the “toes” are bent, and call it “unguligrade anthro”.
I’d like to say these are just hypotheticals, but derpi went through this phase, with loli/shota artists trying to skirt the “no human loli” rules but just changing the most minor things possible to call it “anthro”. The end result was just to set it so “foalcon” was so obviously not involving humans at all as to be “safe” by virtue of being pony/feral only.
Thoryn

Latter Liaison
@Admin
Yeah, like I said, I understand why you are cautious.
Heck, people have gone to jail for age-play porn where both parties involved were consenting and verifiable adult.
I used to live in a country where the laws were exceptionally vague and over-reaching. Technically, you could go to jail for drawing stick figures if they really wanted to go after you.
Sorry for rambling, just hate the direction things are going and needed to vent.
Thanks for adding the descriptions on all of those anthro tag pages, very concise.
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