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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 42

Background Pony #0B6C
@Background Pony #0B6C
But maybe that can be somewhat right. After all, I’m one of those not so interested too. Although I do enjoy good Ai generated images and I’m tried to play with generation before, I’m more used to draw by hand and unlikely will be regulars on exclusively AI oriented website. Maybe there will be more like me, than other. At least I hope so, tbh.
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Site and Policy » Museum of Tantabus » Post 1

Lord Waite

Just looking around in folders with stable diffusion 1 and 2 models, I had the following old models laying around:
  • anythingPonySDIs_v1-pruned.safetensors
  • cookie_sd_pony_run_a12_datasetv5_300k_imgs_fp16-pruned.safetensors
  • fluffyponyMix_v4.safetensors
  • lucidponySDIsMagic2_v20.safetensors
  • marefusion2_v21640.safetensors
  • marefusion2_v22640.safetensors
  • marefusion2_v23704.safetensors
  • marefusion_v10.safetensors
  • marefusion_v11a.safetensors
  • ponyDiffusion_v4.safetensors
  • pony_furry_sfw_nsfw_450k_safe_and_suggestive_and_explicit_250rating_plus-pruned-2.safetensors
  • ponyMaker_v10.safetensors
  • ponySoup_v2RemixPrunedfp16.safetensors
  • lawlessPonyLiberty_v10.ckpt
  • poneart075-075ponyv3.1-025.ckpt
  • ponyDiffusionV5_v5.safetensors
  • ponyDiffusionV5_v55.safetensors
(Some of the marefusion ones might be newer…)
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 41

Background Pony #A922
I still don’t know why Derpi didn’t automate their two image limit. Website should stop someone from submitting third AI image instead of having admins delete excessive images after the fact. It could even queue the image to be auto-submitted later to stop people from circumventing the limit by omitting the AI tag (assuming that would even be a semi-common problem).
Considering Derpi mods’ complaints about prompters having zero clue on how to edit their generations, Tantabus could use a page containing links to image editing/inpainting guides. This would have a positive impact on stuff people will upload here. A ghost signature removal is a 5 minute job with the clone/patch tool in GIMP unless the sig is on a very busy/detailed part background. You have to know that though.
@Admin
We’re hoping for people to be sensible about these things
Considering what Derpi mods said, good luck. :D
Thank you though for managing the site in your free time. I know I wouldn’t have the motivation, let alone time and energy.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 40

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #0B6C
Not really what I meant to imply… Just that by starting “fresh” the clear focus on content type will help and eventually build a “culture” of users naturally aiming for high quality.
On derpi there’s already “so much going on” that people just don’t care; it’s an effect that happens in every space, from websites to parties to videogames, the more people/activity and variety a place has, the less “pressure” a lot of people feel towards checking (or following) the rules/culture.
It’s my hope that over time this place will grow quite a bit, and I definitely don’t see the interest in AI waning any time soon.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 39

Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 38

Background Pony #97A4
@Admin
So same rules but more lax enforcement. I feel like that’ll still generate the same amount of time spent going back and forth but you guys clearly have more time and experience with that sorta stuff. Wish you guys nothing but the best, just not sold on this whole plan myself.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 37

Annalee

Moderator
Adjutant
@Background Pony #97A4
Those guides are meant to help people understand what kinds of quality issues we most often see that result in deletions, and to show people examples of what we may have to talk with them about when they appeal deletions.
It’s not a set of rules, but a way for us to communicate with creators here.
As an example, someone’s image is deleted because of a ghost signature. With the guides I can refer them to the section that talks about ghost signatures, and answer their questions rather than having to type the explanation every time it comes up.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 36

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #97A4
Yes, however please note the language is different; for derpi it’s a much clearer “pass/fail”, for here it’s “hey, look out for these sort of issues”, where too many, or some very bad ones, will likely lead to an image being removed.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 35

Background Pony #97A4
@Admin
No you aren’t being snippy at all, I’m sure this is all a lot to undertake.
This page is the correct rule set for the site though, correct? I see this cuts two rules from the old derpi ones but this still seems rather extreme and a ton of effort to moderate. Are we just expecting this site to be that much less popular that it’ll be easier to moderate? Isn’t the idea for everyone who posted that mass of content on derpi to migrate here? It just feels like a recipe for disaster to move a growing problem to a smaller staff and expect them to somehow handle it with no additional tools or policy changes.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 34

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #0B6C
The hope for here is that the site being new, its AI focus, and having an upfront set of visual examples will do most of the heavy lifting on their own, and when not, we have something fairly clear to point to instead of constant back and forth discussions with the affected uploader.
For derpi, the scale of the site makes it practically untenable. Barely anyone actually ever read the rules, every day multiple people far exceed the upload limit, and a high percentage of overall AI uploads present really egregious errors. Despite multiple mods spending most (if not all) of their time on the site just dealing with AI content, even after “hiring” more people, the amount of work just increased day after day.
Yes, a few people here and there saw the issues and worked to improve them. But those have been the minority, and for every prompter that gained an eye (or pride) for “quality”, or simply got the genning itch out of their system, three more would show up the next day.
And sorry myself if I’m being overly snippy; as you can imagine, it’s been “a day”.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 33

Background Pony #97A4
@Admin
If people want imgur for pony content then, well, imgur is right there.
Except by definition ‘imgur for pony content’ would be just that, a different site for pony content, not just imgur itself. If you want to moderate content here then so be it, I’m unclear on how there’s any hope of that succeeding here when the larger and more experienced staff at derpi failed at the exact same task though.
@Background Pony #0B6C
Honestly it feels like the derpi staff just wants to dumb the problem on someone else and hope it goes away. Of course it won’t, and this will just create more confusion and an overall worse experience for everyone, themselves included. They’re also deleting and banning people who disagree over in the announcement thread on their side. This whole thing is a mess.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 32

Background Pony #0B6C
@Admin
Of course there are ones. AI images obviously are not going anywhere away from world now.
But I just don’t understand how someone can’t see some inconsistency with words and actions. On derpi there was already policies about AI images which avoided low quality images such as with obvious defects. Just don’t see how anyone can believe, that this will work decently here, when in the same time, by their own words, it wasn’t worked any good there already, even with much stricter policies with bigger team. At least because of that inconsistency it looks like majority of the team (who is more responsible for decisions) just wanted to somehow get rid of something they don’t like. Don’t saying they not in their rights, however. But kinda frustrating to be so obviously lied to like this in this community.
Sorry if I seemed to be rude. Didn’t have such intention.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 31

Admin

Administrator
@Background Pony #97A4
A. There’re some bare minimum expectations on quality because we want to encourage better creations over pure slop.
B. If someone “spams” they’ll be asked not to, and moderated if they continue. We’re hoping for people to be sensible about these things and not just dump their latest batch of 150 generations all in one go.
If people want imgur for pony content then, well, imgur is right there.
@Background Pony #0B6C
Pretty much half the “derpi team” has auto1111 or comfyui set up, or an active (paying) civitai account, and are quite fond of using AI themselves. What they don’t like is people churning out low quality “slop” where they saw the big tits or ponut and didn’t care about the missing arm or second horn. Despite the tech getting far better, people overall have somehow gotten worse at realizing their gens are full of errors.
“But human made art also has errors and that gets a pass!”
ok 👍
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 30

Background Pony #0B6C
@Background Pony #97A4
To me it looks like derpi team found it as most convenient way to get rid of content, which they don’t like and don’t want to deal with, regardless of if it will most likely not going to work properly in the future, since it was not their interest in the first place and their problem anymore.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 29

Starshine

Pony Dev
@Admin
ahh thanks yeah i was active on derpi and also have the artist /prompter link to my derpi link here. And no worries. completly understandable that you guys wanna wait for that!
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 28

Background Pony #97A4
From a quick glance at the rules I’m not sure I understand the purpose of this whole site or the split in general. It seems that:
A. There will still be policing of art quality on here (for some reason).
B. There will be generally no rate limit on posting.
If the original issue was increased workload on the derpi staff to gatekeep art then why would making a new site with less staff, which allows for even more art, be a solution to that? How is this in the interest of the community and not just an attempt by the derpi staff to offload the consequences of their own decisions onto another mod team? I find the idea of policing what people post frankly bizarre on both sites but especially on this one. I can post anything I want on DeviantArt or most other image boards. The voting system can decide what floats to the top or not. Why are we treating this and derpi like private art galleries run to the personal taste of mods and not freely shared community resources?
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 27

Background Pony #F5AE
Just call it tantabooru. references tantabus but still keeps the familiar ‘booru’ naming
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Site and Policy » Museum of Tantabus » Topic Opener

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nickers softly @u
This would be a page linked in the site footer that showcases the capabilities of the various AI models from back in the old StyleGAN days through whatever latest PonyDiffusion beta. Each entry ideally would have at least four examples: two of “typical” output and two of the model at its best (potentially with light retouching). Perhaps also an optional bonus column for noteworthy fuckups and WTF moments.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 26

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nickers softly @u
I understand if you all want to keep this as an unofficial “c’mon, let’s use common sense here” policy rather than amend Rule 9.
  • Add an exception for notable fuckups (so bad it’s good, WTF, probably not salmon, etc…), historical artifacts, and Dali-inspired surrealism.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 25

Admin

Administrator
@Starshine
Eventually, yes. We’d like to give it a short bit before opening applications given everyone is “new” here, as is everything. If you’re already active on derpi then that might speed things up a bit, but still likely a few weeks before we’d start on that.
@n
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@Background Pony #ED54
Thanks for pointing that out, should be sorted now. If you see any other issues please do let us know.
@DroolingDreamer
And yes, the name is meant as a reference to the Luna’s nightmare construct, seeing as so many other ai related sites and services really ham up the whole “dream” thing as much as they can.
@Background Pony #0B6C
It’s not intended to be a ghetto, just more permissive.
@MareStare
@Awkward Segway
Looks to be a bug on default values being set wrong on seeding an account. Apologies for that; not sure if it’ll be fixed as there are other changes in the pipeline heavily affecting themes.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 24

Awkward Segway

@MareStare
This is something that I suggested on Derpibooru, but it never got acted on. When logged out, the site’s theme is the same as your browser or system theme (not sure which). When you log in though, the site’s theme is set by your settings, and there’s no option to have the theme be set automatically in your settings.
I suggested adding that option, but it never got added. I don’t know why they make it able to sync to your browser/system theme when not logged in, but not have that option when logged in.
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Site and Policy » Opening Thread » Post 21

BigBuggyBastage

Go fsck yourself
After registration, clicking the confirmation link in the email sent just dumps me to the Tantabus homepage, with the message:
Confirmation link is invalid or it has expired.
Which is obviously incorrect, because I then logged-in without issue. LoL
Oh hey, do/can I get a badge for being an early-bird? :3
@Admin
  1. All ai content images on derpi, sans ai voice, were copied over automatically as of this morning.
Praise Lord Ganesha. 😁
I had been assembling a script, in the back of my mind, to save everything that’ll be nuked in a month. I’m just thankful I won’t have to implement it now.
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